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Archive 7

This one was posted in March 2001

Is there a future for Line Dancing?  Wow, now that really does pose a question!    
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THE FUTURE OF LINE DANCING

Is there a future for line dancing and if so, what is it?
Well things have certainly changed in the line dancing world since I entered it 8 years ago. At that time, 95% of the music was New Country; the dances were relatively simple and because it felt so new, the enthusiasm just naturally radiated from the dancers. I guess there was a certain innocence that comes with any new 'craze' but obviously does not and cannot last.
Today things are very different.
Numbers of dancers have reduced by at least 50% since line dancing peaked about 4 years ago. All forms of music are used; there are an abundance of dances, mainly due to the accessibility of the internet and the dances are, on the whole, more difficult. But although things are different today, the ironic thing is, IMO that actually not much has changed at all. Is that a contradiction in terms or what?
I guess what I am trying to say is that very few in the line dancing world dare to take risks, be different or move this style of dance on. Of course
if we dare to be different we are up for criticism; whether it be dressing differently or taking on the media from a different perspective.
Throughout my career I have taken risks, been controversial and dared to be different. I have now done this again with my new video - taken the basic concept of line dancing - i.e. the repetitive sequence of steps, and demonstrated the variety of STYLES and MUSIC, in a contemporary fashion, thus moving the image into the 21st century.
Hopefully there will be enough people out there to have an open mind and accept this.

Lynne

(17th July)
Hi Lynne,
I agree with you, things have changed and I do question whether those changes are for the better. That innocence you mention is also true as it has become so competitive these days. I also started dancing 8 years ago and I look back fondly at all those lovely simple dances we all crowded the floor to do. Now it seems a dance isn't worth doing unless it's got a Latin or Techno beat and consists of 96 counts, has at least 2 bridges and a multitude of phrases. It seems that everyone is struggling to outdo each other to learn the latest ones, the quickest too. I know I am generalising and actually I do like some of the Latin and Techno ones as well, but I know exactly what you mean. I am really a country music fan so that is really where my heart lies. Oh, I notice in your Top 10 that 'Single Moment' is your present favourite. I learnt that a while back and I still love it; I just wish it was danced more often at my class.
Good luck too with your video Lynne.
Best wishes,
Lyn Fordham
Hampshire

Hi Lyn (what a lovely name >g<; actually to tell you the truth I have never liked my name; hope you like yours.) Thank you for such a wonderful email and you do make some very valid points. I think the key is to create a healthy balance between the number of dances taught, the right mixture of country, Latin, etc. (in my case I average 55% country; 30% Latin, 10% swing and 5% techno & Pop) as well as a mixture of difficulty. Those that come to my classes know exactly what they will be getting.  Don't let yourself be pressurised by any outside influences; it is all so transient that it is not worth bothering about. The key is to find yourself an instructor/s who you are happy with and not to worry about anything else. In my eyes, there is no competitive element, as I really wouldn't know whom I was competing with. Don't think too much about the past and what was, either. Enjoy yourself for the 'now' and look at the positive changes.  Hope this helps a touch.
Thanks once again for writing in Lyn. Very much appreciated.
Lynne

(17th July)
As a youngster (16) who is new to line dancing, I think that the old dancers don't want to let us in. I often feel an 'anti' when we dance to things like 'Wild Wild West' or 'Freaky Deaky'. The old dancers see us as taking over 'their' pastime. How can there be a future for line dancing if this is how some react to change. There are 8 of us who dance happily every dance taught but when our instructor dares to be contemporary you just know what the reaction is from others. It ends up with just 8 of us learning that particular dance properly and boy, you can hear the moans! If I didn't love it so much I wouldn't bother. (Please don't print my full name and address, as I don't want anyone to link this to me.)
Kym

Hi Kym,
Yes, I understand fully what you are saying but you also have to understand that there are many 'tradionalists' who are very passionate about their style of dancing which they have been doing for many years, so I do have a lot of sympathy for them too.
Sounds like you need to find an instructor who has a class that is more on your wavelength. Your present instructor sounds pretty brave as she is trying to branch out and does understand that line dancing has moved on but is influenced by the reaction to the majority of the class too. Give me more details of where you live and I will try to help you.
Thanks.
Lynne

(21 May)
Hi Lynne
I dance every week in my local village hall - there are usually about 20 of us and my teacher has a big rush to get to the class from her job - and we have lovely evenings. I really can't say that anything that I've seen on the TV has made much difference to me but then I am only interested in enjoying my little local class. I can see that image becomes much more of an issue if your business revolves around it but I don't think many dancers would even give it a second thought. As long as I can go and do my dancing when and where I want to, I really don't care what's on the TV. or the future of line dancing - i.e. unless my class closes down. Then I would be upset.
That’s the difference, I guess, in dancing as part of your social life and making dance your career.
Good luck anyway
Cynthia Doyle
Wales

Hi Cynthia,
I understand what you are saying and yes, you are right. As long as you enjoy your dancing nothing else should matter. I have to take a much broader view as line dancing IS my profession and therefore besides being passionate about it, I have to view it as a business. Maybe one day I will leave the 'business' and just enjoy it in the same way you do.
Best wishes,
Lynne

(21 May)
Well, Lynne, I thought John Prescott could pack a punch, but not quite like you - I do hope Sally Jones managed to duck in time!! For line dancing to have an expanding, on-going future it is of course linked totally to its image. The dancers who have been around for years will continue to dance for as long as boredom does not set in. BUT new blood has constantly got to be attracted and this will always be based on the present day image. How many of us die-hard dancers cringe away from telling anyone new we meet that we line dance so to avoid the derogatory comment and the compulsory "Yeehaa" instead of proudly sharing our undying passion with them. And the reaction of the uninitiated is solely down to the naff image portrayed in the media.
How many times have we tried to explain that it is not like that; that we use all kinds of music - yes, even Ricky Martin; that we get EXHAUSTED and EXHILARATED on our dance nights - yes, they are really lively and ENERGETIC. And then suddenly we get straw sucking cowboys, hats on back of heads in barn setting playing banjos shuffling about as if on a gentle walk in the park on our TV screens. Oh, and the compulsory YEEHAA!
So, Lynne, you are totally RIGHT to be fixated with its image. It will take an enormous effort to change what seems to be the inevitable but as long as we have someone like you brave enough to battle on at least we stand a fighting chance.
So I, for one, am in your corner!! Good Luck.
Maxine Parks
Buckinghamshire

Dear Maxine,
Thank you for such an excellent and highly articulate email - what a welcome relief after the last one. You obviously understood what I was saying in my Viewpoint and your observation of line dancing - its future and image are in my opinion, spot on!
On a personal note, Thank you too for all the support you have given me with 'The Grapevine Connection' functions - I just wish you lived closer to attend my classes.
Thank you for taking the time to write in. It was just what the doctor ordered.
Love,
Lynne xx

(14 May)
Lynne,
I think that you have a total fixation with image, and as for all this so-called media coverage – well personally I’d like to see some. Please tell me where all this adverse press and TV coverage of line dancing has been because I must have missed every single bit! In all the years I have been line dancing I have `glimpsed’ it on TV about twice and read about it about as many times – apart from in Linedancer that is. So please tell me what on earth you are all talking about.
And where on earth do you get your figures? According to you line dancing has reduced by at least 50% - says who? I agree with you that the dances have become harder, but apart from that I think very little has changed. The classes I attend are as popular as ever; in fact on Social nights it’s hard to get in the door. There are always new faces turning up as well so obviously the apparent `poor image’ of line dancing hasn’t reached our neck of the woods.
Have you ever thought that maybe the only attitude that could do with changing is your own?
Sally Jones
(Area unknown)

Well Sally Jones, I have to say that I feel your letter is rather a personal attack that is both vicious and vindictive - and dare I say, somewhat ignorant.
As any successful business person knows, image is everything when it comes to marketing your product or service. Image can dictate the commercial viability of your project. So yes, as a business woman in a very tough retail world I do have a fixation with the image of my product but this does not mean I have a fixation with my personal image - perhaps the problem is that you are complexed about your image?
I can agree with you on one point - yes, you must have missed every bit of adverse press and TV coverage of line dancing. I can assure you that I didn't and could send you details of exactly where and when. It amuses me that you feel able to comment on something that, of your own admission, you have merely 'glimpsed'.
So where do you dance that your classes are as popular as ever? My classes are as popular as ever too, oh, and with new faces turning up as well. All I am saying is that compared to a few years ago the numbers of dancers have dropped. I'm sure your instructor, whoever he/she is, would agree with me if they have been teaching for a few years.
I'm thrilled to hear it’s hard to get in the door on the social nights you attend. How big is the venue? It's all relative, isn't it. The Grapevine Connection held very large functions and I have held a couple of socials. If you hire a hall that has a capacity of 100, I am sure it is very easy to sell out.
You have obviously totally misunderstood my Viewpoint and attacked it without being able to substantiate your views with facts. I'm all for lively debate and if your comments had been more specific and constructive without the bitchy element, I too, could have replied in a more decent, polite manner.
Lynne

(23 April)
All these new dances and music is what has done line dancing in. We've always had a nice night with our friends, getting done up in our western gear, having a few drinks, listening to country music and then strutting our stuff to those dances we know so well. We don't want to change and people don't have to go line dancing if they don't want to. I feel angry that so many of you want to change what we like. Just go dance in the discos or something.
Mr. Angry,
(Name and address withheld)

Hello Mr. Angry,
It would have been nice if you had put your name to your email.
Why don't you and your friends hire a little hall, and make it your own? There still are many places that play just country music so dress up and check them out too. I am sure I can put you in touch with a couple.
Lynne

(23 April)
The scene has changed Lynne and along with that the style and image. When I began dancing in 1994, Stetsons and western dress was commonplace but you hardly see that these days. The only time you really see this style of dress is in competitions. I think this is sad - everyone used to look so smart in their crisp shirts, bolos and waistcoats. Now, hardly anyone seems to bother what he or she looks like. I do think this is why many of the older dancers have left the scene - especially with all the youngsters coming in.
The dances seem harder too. It doesn't feel like home anymore.
Muriel Somersby
Somerset

Hi Muriel,
Surely it is a matter of finding an instructor that is suitable for you. The majority of instructors teach the easier dances only and there are many who cater mainly for the dare I say 'mature' dancer.
As for dress, there is nothing to stop anyone from wearing their western gear. I know I love wearing my hat and boots and don't really care if others don't like it. Wear what you want and don't be intimidated by others.
Thank you for finding my site.
Best wishes,
Lynne

(9 April)
Hi Lynne,
"What exactly does moving linedance on mean? To where? New styles? Ok, yet does this mean less mass appeal? Do you want mass appeal?"
Well my new video is where I want it to go. It has taken the concept of line dancing and broadened the appeal. It does look cool and exciting to do. Of course I am biased >g<.
"Sometimes moving forward means going backwards, sideways and around. Yes, linedance has been there, done that, got the T-shirt now what? The future is uncertain. Yet there is great opportunity. The 'image' of LD has changed little in the media's eyes. This despite your really excellent attempts to portray how LD really is or can be. So do we become disillusioned? Some may. Though an alternative is to acknowledge the past while moving forward."
That is exactly what we are trying to do with 'Get Up & Dance'! The fact is you say to anybody in the media the word line dancing and they either yawn, or go "Yeehaa" and you definitely don't even get your little finger though the door. It is very hard to fight a stereotype.
"Oh and lots of people's fun is someone's hard work. Someone like yourself."
Dave Hook
Middlesex

Thanks Dave - I know you appreciate it all.
Fondest wishes,
Lynne

(30 March)
Dear Lynne
There has to be progression for anything to have a future and line dancing is no exception to this rule but as always the pioneers of change always have to take the stick. You will offend some; you will appeal to more but without change boredom will kill even the most dedicated dancer.
So, Lynne, carry on taking the risks and keep our interest alive!
Best wishes,
Sandra Harris
Suffolk

Thank you Sandra. I guess I am a sucker for punishment but a sucker for excitement and challenge as well.
Thank you for an excellent email.

Lynne

(30 March)
Hello Lynne,
Well I wouldn’t say that you are the only person to have ever taken a risk in the line dance world. I’m sure many of us remember Max Perry’s groundbreaking `Swamp Thang’ as it was so totally different to anything around at the time – what’s more it swamped the floor every time it was played. It never needed to be announced because just the first few bars of the music were enough to have everyone jostling for a position on the floor. Since then there has been some incredibly innovative choreography from all over the globe and all sorts of genres of music are now exciting us on the dance floor. I believe there is a future for line dancing and there always will be. Nothing can stay static, all that has happened is that it has simply evolved and that’s a totally natural state of affairs. If we had all just stayed dancing Electric Slide and Foot Boogie we would have all died of boredom by now.
Take Care
Lloyd Shackleton
Eastbourne

Well Lloyd, you are right. I think Max Perry's 'Swamp Thang' was a risk in dancing that dance to that music, but initially it was choreographed to a country track. I guess it kinda fell into that music but the point being that at the time it was different.
I agree about all the innovative choreography and genres of music that you mention but the question is "is there enough new excitement and interest to generate loads more people in participating in our past-time to guarantee a healthy future for line dancing?"
Best wishes,
Lynne

(30 March)
There is a future if we all just realise that it has changed, and in my mind for the better. Some of the youngsters who have joined the scene in recent years are not only superb dancers but they are injecting a bit of much-needed life into it. You’ve only got to look at some of these competition winners to see what I mean. They’ve got a fresh new approach and they dance with enthusiasm and energy the like of which we have never seen. Plus, if you look at all the boy and girl bands around these days it’s easy to see where they get their inspiration.
I think that part of the problem is that many are still clinging to the past. It stands to reason that if you want to keep something going then you have to have new blood constantly flowing through the veins. Line dancing can and will have a future if we all keep an open mind and stop resisting change.
Good luck with moving LD into the 21st Century Lynne – I for one am right behind you.
Simon Gates
Yorkshire

Hi Simon,
I think it is great that there have been youngsters who have joined the scene, irrespective of whether they are good dancers or not. I am afraid the competition dancers that you talk about are of a tiny minority and there are certainly not enough of them to class them as 'saviours' of line dancing in the future. Having said that, it is great that there have been some young dancers who have joined the scene. The more of them there are, the healthier the future of line dancing will be.
Thanks for writing in.
Regards,
Lynne

(30 March)
Hi Lynne,
I have to say that the answer is a resounding yes in light of some of the new dances we have been learning at Brent. I always try to remember that I am dancing as part of a group in my own individual way and very few situations, especially in nightclubs where the focus is often on other things (dress sense, who you are with etc), will allow you to dance with confidence. What is good about Line Dancing is that it can crossover to other things and reflect positively in your life. I know that my movement for example has improved since I began in 1999 and I feel more comfortable socially. What I think needs to be done is to remind people that it is a valid dance form and focus a lot more on the evident positive aspects. Certainly videos and the Internet will help to elaborate on this.
Thanks again
John Higgins
Wembley

Hi John,
You have stated the benefits of line dancing which are totally correct. I just wish we could get that message across to the public at large. Just watching you and seeing your confidence 'grow' just confirms my belief that this form of dancing can be so beneficial for one. Just wish we could spread the message more.
Thank you as always for your excellent support.
Lynne xx

 

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